Australia 1935 1/- ANZAC, Plate Proof, Perforated 13½ x 12½

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Australia 1935 1/- ANZAC, Plate Proof, Perforated 13½ x 12½

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Hi To All

This my copy of the 1/- black 1935 ANZAC Plate Proof.

A specially made chalk paper was used. It seems all stamps are similary centred from this one and only sheet.

All stamps come from Richard Juzwin, who controls the market. This stamp has a fixed market of $A2,500.

Richard purchased the entire sheet in England from the relatives of John Ash.

13½ x 12½ - left hand stamp

Normal issue - right hand stamp

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Barry nice stamp. 8)

Your scanning skill is full steam now!

The story on these is worth re-telling.

An English dealer Josh Gregson (J.A.Gregson Ltd) was commissioned to sell off the Estate of Alan Davidson in the mid 1980s, who had a huge Australia collection.

He did this over a few years. I bought quite a bit of it actually, as he did a few ozzie shows, and down here was clearly his best market for bulk stock of these.

One lot he sold was a dealer's lot of full sheets of 1930s commems. All the usual stuff for general dealer stock.

Richard bought Anzac sheets for stock, along with other sheets, and paid Davidson about $50 a set for the Anzac pair, which was typical wholesale then - around 30 years ago.

No-one noticed anything unusual the sheets, and they were torn up for disposal into singles, and blocks 10 for other dealer wholesale etc. I know of 2 dealers who bought some in blocks at $A60 or so a set.

Then when Andy Juzwin was tearing up one order, he noticed the 1/- value tore up nicely, and not with difficulty as the 1/- usually does, due to thick paper and very coarse line perf 11.

It tore up just as easily as the 2d value.

Why?

As it was the same fine guage comb PERF as the 2d!

Big mystery to all. New Kellow research in the ACSC has shown it came from the Estate of Commonwealth Stamp Printer John Ash after he retired. The one perforated proof sheet done was returned to Note Printing Branch and should have been destroyed, but it seems clear that John Ash "trousered" it, and later on Davidson bought his bulk stamp material. The plate size of 2d and 1/- was very slightly different hence the existing comb perf did not work well on the 1/-.

It is curious that Davidson - an absolute top line collector had never exhibited or written about this. So either he did not know it was a proof sheet, or did know, and did not want OTHERS to know that he had it, as it was in essence stolen property from the Government!

My bet is Davidson had no idea, or he would have noted it on his collection write-up. Josh Gregson was selling them as normal stamps, that much is for sure! :idea:

Anyway Richard ran around and bought back most of the ones they'd mailed out over the past months. Not sure what story he gave them, but some of them foolishly did sell back to him - more power to Richard!

Some had already sold them as normal stock to clients, and for a $60 set who'd remember who bought it, and they may still be lurking out there in basic hingeless albums. A $2,500 stamp, in a $60 stamp mount. :)

Juzwin then somehow got SG to list it and price it, and record in a footnote, that plate proofs exist, price £1,600 (=$A3,750)

I certainly wrote an article or two saying this was absurd as these things were nothing other than plate proofs until proven otherwise, and had NO place to be in a general SG cat.

That view eventually prevailed in VERY recent years, and SG have removed the cat listing but still record in a footnote that plate proofs exist, price £1,600 (=$A3,750)
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Re: 1935 ANZAC Plate Proof Perf. 13.5 x 12.5

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This stamp has a fixed market of $2,500.
I have seen them get higher overseas actually, given the high SG (and Scott) price which has been £1600 for a decade or more in SG. The ACSC price is also $2,500.

Scott now also lists it is a footnote for $US3,000 - which is about $A3,600 - which is similar to the SG value.

A year or so back that same Scott value was more like $A6,000 of course. :D

I have a nice MUH one of these in general stock for $A2,150 if anyone reading can't live without one! :D
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Re: 1935 ANZAC Plate Proof Perf. 13½ x 12½

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Added a MUH copy up on my Rarity Page today and added scan here for the record. :)
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1935 1/- Anzac - rare UNISSUED perf 13½ x 12½ - MUH – i.e. the same perf as the 2d: Not the usual lumpy single line perf 11 issued version shown above on the right side (included in the lot of course), but the fine comb perf 13½, as found on all the 2d.

MUH, with far better than usual centering, from the single sheet found. ACSC 165pp, $A2,750. SG 155a £1,600 = $A3,200. Scott #151, $US3,500 = $A4,500. A superb acquisition on this, the CENTENARY of Gallipoli. One of the all-time classic stamps designs of this country. Under HALF SCOTT.
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Glen,

I seem to recall that there was a complete sheet sold in one of the Archival sales without it being described as such,

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David Benson wrote:Glen,

I seem to recall that there was a complete sheet sold in one of the Archival sales without it being described as such,

David B.
Your memory is partly right David. Only one (1) sheet was ever discovered. Full story is above -
ozstamps wrote:
The story on these is worth re-telling.

An English dealer Josh Gregson (J.A.Gregson Ltd) was commissioned to sell off the Estate of Alan Davidson in the mid 1980s, who had a huge Australia collection.

He did this over a few years. I bought quite a bit of it actually, as he did a few ozzie shows, and down here was clearly his best market for bulk stock of these.

One lot he sold was a dealer's lot of full sheets of 1930s commems. All the usual stuff for general dealer stock.

Richard bought Anzac sheets for stock, along with other sheets, and paid Davidson about $50 a set for the Anzac pair, which was typical wholesale then - around 30 years ago.

No-one noticed anything unusual the sheets, and they were torn up for disposal into singles, and blocks 10 for other dealer wholesale etc. I know of 2 dealers who bought some in blocks at $A60 or so a set.

Then when Andy Juzwin was tearing up one order, he noticed the 1/- value tore up nicely, and not with difficulty as the 1/- usually does, due to thick paper and very coarse line perf 11.

It tore up just as easily as the 2d value.

Why?

As it was the same fine guage comb PERF as the 2d!

Big mystery to all. New Kellow research in the ACSC has shown it came from the Estate of Commonwealth Stamp Printer John Ash after he retired. The one perforated proof sheet done was returned to Note Printing Branch and should have been destroyed, but it seems clear that John Ash "trousered" it, and later on Davidson bought his bulk stamp material. The plate size of 2d and 1/- was very slightly different hence the existing comb perf did not work well on the 1/-.

It is curious that Davidson - an absolute top line collector had never exhibited or written about this. So either he did not know it was a proof sheet, or did know, and did not want OTHERS to know that he had it, as it was in essence stolen property from the Government!

My bet is Davidson had no idea, or he would have noted it on his collection write-up. Josh Gregson was selling them as normal stamps, that much is for sure! :idea:

Anyway Richard ran around and bought back most of the ones they'd mailed out over the past months. Not sure what story he gave them, but some of them foolishly did sell back to him - more power to Richard!

Some had already sold them as normal stock to clients, and for a $60 set who'd remember who bought it, and they may still be lurking out there in basic hingeless albums. A $2,500 stamp, in a $60 stamp mount. :)
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Glen,

has anyone still got a copy what was in the archival sales. I remember reading that the perf. error was in one of the sales.

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Glen,

25 Years ago is when the Archival sales were held,

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David Benson wrote:Glen,

has anyone still got a copy what was in the archival sales. I remember reading that the perf. error was in one of the sales.

David B.
Archival Sale Number Two listed the following lots of the 1935 ANZAC commemorative:

157 - 2d scarlet and 1/- black, thirty-six mint unmounted sets in large multiples (72) estimate $1800
158 - Ten sets in blocks or pairs (20) estimate $500
159 - Imprint blocks of eight (160 estimate $400

Lot 157 had no accompanying photo.
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thanks,

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David Benson wrote:
I remember reading that the perf. error was in one of the sales.
You remember quite wrong David. The facts are outlined above. 8)

There was only ever one sheet perforated p13½. John Ash left office with it - stolen or gift or legal, who really knows, after 80 years.

Even the PO Archives does not have a copy of this perforated proof. :mrgreen:

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Added one of these cool stamps to stock recently at a good price. Just an update for the record on current cat prices -

ACSC 165PP(1), fresh MUH, Cat $2,750. SG cat £1,600=$A3,200 for hinged mint. Scott 151a, $US3,500=$A5,300 for MUH.

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