Hank: Thanks for the Natalie Avital Shallow Ground clips. Both A Canadian and I, who seldom ever agree, each picked Natalie as Best Mainstream Actress in our 2005 Retrospectives (December 24, 2005...direct link above) for her excellent nude suspension scene in that movie. It's hard enough to find suspension scenes in mainstream films in the first place, let alone nude ones, and this movie had two of them, the second being a much briefer one by Tara Killian

MasterDetective: Feel free to let RangerDave post his illegal clips elsewhere on the net, where people don't give a shit about protecting producers' rights and thievery runs rampant. I'm glad that you're taking a conscientious approach toward keeping this site fully moderated now and keeping the stolen material off. Just don't go on any more month-long vacations without putting someone in charge of watching the site in your absence. It's still a risky venture, but several people are glad that you're attempting it.

Hey everyone! Just dropping a quick note..

Yes, it took a bit of work, but I think I've gotten most of the illegal content off YouTied. RangerDave (or whatever his handle was?) seemed a bit upset, but likewise he told me he's decided to post elsewhere.. soo.. all's well that end's well. Ralphus' idea of moderating the site is good, and perhaps we'll use that in the end, but for now I like the more "organic" nature of having people post first, and then remove what's illegal.

As I said before, I have a new model for how to help keep illegal content off the site. I've had my hands full since I got back in the country, but I plan on implementing some of those ideas this week and next.

Hank recently posted some good clips from Shallow Ground, but I had to encode them by hand and almost missed them. I just got them up now:

• http://www.youtied.com/videos/watch/960/
• http://www.youtied.com/videos/watch/959/
• http://www.youtied.com/videos/watch/958/
• http://www.youtied.com/videos/watch/957/
• http://www.youtied.com/videos/watch/956/

YouTied did go offline briefly a couple nights ago (some people have commented on that here), but that was an ISP failure. All the servers on that ISP went out, so it was something outside my immediate control.

Ralphus: Ha! Just noticed the change to Scribbler's work. I also only recently learned that the "9" actually lifts up the woman. I gotta start paying more attention. BTW, thanks for the Erotic Perversion pics.

A Canadian: Loved that Slave Island 8-5 clip.

Anyway, I have refiled the clip (which will need to be encoded), but hopefully this will get corrected at some point.

My clip for Slave Island 8 - 05 didn't go through properly, either, but there is enough in the clip that appeared that I can live with that one.

I noticed people were still posting 10 minute long commercial clips even while I was checking it out, but the 12-minute Powershotz clip Brutus posted about earlier today was gone. MasterDetective is back on it, removing them nearly as fast as people were posting them. Why he took the site down again is unknown, but hopefully he's installing safeguards to keep the people who were misusing the site from doing it again. A few of the comments on one of the newer illegal clips were complaining about how quickly their previous clips got deleted. Guess what, fool? Get used to it!

One way to protect the site would be to put YouTied on moderated status...the clips would have to be approved first before they can be uploaded. Or he could give himself the ability to ban posters who constantly upload the illegal material, possibly by blocking their IP numbers. Dreambook gives me that option, although I seldom have to use it on this site, since we have very few spammers and our posters are all polite, well-mannered perverts...well, most of us, anyway :)

My ratings for the series (in order )

Excellent - Chapter 11

Good - Chapter 9, 12, 7, 3

Alright - Chapter 8, 5, 6, 1

Not Worth Watching - 2, 4, 10

Always likely that the best chapters in terms of story, scenes and feel are those starring the better known and prettier AV actresses (11, 9, 12, 7). 3 was surprisingly good.

There was a lack / weak use of gags throughout the series. It wasn't until Chapter 11 when ball gags were used in a scene. Bit gags were used in other chapters but they don't look as great as ball gags. The missing ankle cuffs? The bondage cuffs doesn't look tight enough.

I'm more interested in the plot (if any), how the gals became captives on the island. I will post the plot synopsis for the series here (when I finally get it).

Meanwhile, I think you've touched on an interesting subject -- a listing of people's favorite Slave Island movies. I don't have a fully defined list, but my preferences go something like this. Like you, my favorite one is Slave Island 11, which is also one of my favorite GIMP movies in general. For those who need all the details (and then some), here's my review from last year.

My next favorite title is Slave Island 7, which I also reviewed last year. I think third place is a tie between Slave Island 5 and Slave Island 8. Next would be Slave Island 6 and Slave Island 12, followed by Slave Island 2, and then all the rest. (I should note I haven't seen Slave Island 3 in its entirety).

I don't know if anyone is planning to review Slave Island 8, but I have some clips such as this one up on YouTied. And I will be sending some more clips from that movie to YouTied over the next few evenings, so you may want to keep a watch for them. If you haven't seen Slave Island 8, you should. Some of my favorite scenes are in that movie.

Can anyone briefly give the plot synopsis for the Japan Attackers Slave Island series (1-12) if there is any?

All I can understand is that the bad guys run a recruiting company, trick the lovely gals with fake jobs? And bought them over to Slave Island for their hell on earth. Their victims seem to differ from housewife, model to doctor. Add an insurance agent or investigator (chapter 9) or cop (chapter 11) into the mix. Interesting indeed.

What happen in ending of chapter 12 when the bad guys betrayed and kill each other?

Any chance of a review of Slave Island Chapter 8?

Anyway, my favs in the series in order are (chapter 11, 9, 12, 3, 7)

Cheers!!

Remember how last week everybody thought YouTied had been forced off the net and no one was surprised because we knew his whole operation was illegal and we figured it wouldn't last? Well, it's very disappointing to me that he brings it back so quickly without doing a thorough housecleaning first. Maybe the next time it goes down will be for the exact reason that we all figured it would be. I certainly hope he acts quickly before that happens. I'd like to support the site but at this point I don't see the changes I was hoping for.

If anyone asks....no teen porn on the site.....no schoolgirl fantasy.

Google doesn't allow it.

The rise of fascism continues.

To the person that posted the complaint about how difficult it is to cancel a recurring membership to a paysite. The answer is simple. Sites that feature abduction fantasy are forced to use offshore billing companies who's systems suck. These are companies that are willing to take the risk because they are so desperate for cash flow as they start up. Once they get big and successful and we debug their system for them by dealing with all the customer complaints....they cut us loose and we move on to train the next guy.

Whenever I see rope on a woman I get that chill (of delight). Of course, some scenes are better than others.

I can't remember the movie, but Leelee Sobrieski was taped tied to a chair with a shotgun aimed at her. That was hot.

Any time those chicks from Acapulco Heat got bound, oh MAN!

Some of those Japanese movies are fricking awesome too.

My mind seems to be broken at the moment, or I could name a number of other fine mainstream scenes.

What seems interesting to me is that if the bondage is of a sexual nature it doesn't do much for me -- unless there's some role play involved (going for a walk with a collar on, for example).

The first time I saw Secretary, I wanted Maggie G. so badly I had to take four ice cold showers a day for a week. While I still think she's one hot babe, the movie does nothing any more.

As I say a beautiful woman is even better looking in bondage.

The movie is a compilation film featuring segments from different producers, and it's a real mixed bag, but there are a few standout scenes. Besides Tina Krause's aforementioned electro torture scene (WAVE did that one), there's also a very good "home movie" sequence entitled "Thrill Rape Kill", made by the folks at Factory 2000. They used to make underground films usually involving strangulation, most of them pretty bad, but they had a certain low budget appeal. Cult actress Misty Mundae got her start with them and also appears in some footage in this film.

Anyway, the "Thrill Rape Kill" segment is one of the most best things I've seen from them. A group of guys have a girl that they bind and gag with duct tape, and she's taken out in their van and raped, then taken back inside and raped again on the floor before she dies. The footage is deliberately shaky and sometimes dark, but that just adds to the realistic feel of the footage. It looks and sounds like bunch of guys whooping it up, having a good time tormenting their victim and having a rape party and that's exactly why it works so well. There's a tiny snippet from that segment at 1:02 of the downloadable trailer at the site that YikYakker pointed out.

Stay away from the sequel to Snuff Perversions, Shock 2000. It sucks big time.

Does anyone know where I can get a copy of Snuff Perversions: Bizzare Cases of Death (1999)?

There is a downloadable trailer at the site listed above, which purports to sell the DVD for $35. Does anyone know if this site can be trusted to deliver the goods?

One of the vids I may submit is from a new clips4sale store I found-"Asian Superheroines". There are a bunch of low-priced scenes from the Japanese superheroine movies that are oft-discussed here. I just bought "Princess Pink 1" (on page 2) and I gotta say, even though there is no real nudity in that scene, it is one of the best AOH belly punching scenes I've even seen, especially since the hot girl acts it out well. There are scenes from "Black Angel" that I think someone was askin about a while back.

BP: They actually do the "look-it's-consensual" interviews in comics? Those interviews annoy me, but I'm sure the producers feel they are needed to keep the censors at bay.

It was on I think the latest DoFantasy one. Cagri and Was the other one Fernando? Myself I don't like the PDF format since you end up with so much stuff you don't need or want. I had someone tell me out of I'm thinking 90 pages on PDF you ended up with really 45 where you had the lets say meat and potato shots. If I really wanted commercials I guess I would stick to broadcast TV. Anyway I hate the paysites that have the re-occurring billing. For some reason I get the short end of the stick and play heck leaving the site. Some sites are great and you just want to keep re-upping but boy if you get one that updates once a month and doesn't have any old stuff in the archives it seems like it's wasted money.

Anyway I see YouTied will be back so everyone will be just talking about it and all other threads will be lost. I really hate to say it but I never was a fan of the videos. To me a good picture is better. I can download a complete 45 minute movie and I'm fast forwarding to the good parts. Than I have space taken up on my hard drive. Anyway with You Tied you are still going to get in trouble like you do with the Google/Yahoo groups. People start posting complete sets the day after the owner lets it go out to the masses. They can't make any money and they go out of business. You Tied is good for samples but I don't know how anyone can manage it and not try to make at least the money to cover bandwidth.

Tina Krause played in "The Electrocution" segment, where gets tortured with electricity with while tied to a chair and her top ripped off.

Also the movie "Escape From Brothel"? They used to sell both on eBay back in the days but now both have been deleted off most websites such as Amazon and eBay. Any ideas?

You know, I have a disc with some clips that I have been hoping to post to YouTied, and I came this close to chucking the disc. But I still have it, so when the day comes that I can post again, I'll be ready.

Hey Everyone!

I sincerely apologize for the great delay, and the "mystery" disappearance... and likewise I greatly appreciate all the concern that has been expressed here.

I'm going to try to make a (very) long story short...

Why did YouTied go offline? Because it was so popular that it vastly exceeded its bandwidth allowance and I wasn't around to pay the bill

Why wasn't I around to pay the bill? Very long story, but the short of it is that I was unexpectedly diverted on my recent trip, and it took me much longer to "return to civilization" than I had anticipated. I'm just now getting back online, paying the bills for YT, etc.

I expect that YT should be back online in the next day or two. I'm going to remove all the pirated content that's been posted there in my absence, of course, and indeed I've had time now to think up some new strategies on how to prevent new pirated content from showing up in the first place. I should be able to implement these strategies in the next several weeks.

At any rate, thank you all again so much for your concern, and expect YT to be back up and running normally in the next couple days!

We're not talking about the disappearance of Jimmy Hoffa or D.B. Cooper here, guys.

No, we're not. This is more important.

...unless the mob already got to him and his body is buried under some stadium...

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BP: Yeah, personally, I hate it when we see the introduction to a bondage shoot where the female is interviewed before and after (and sometimes even during) the session. On one hand, I do enjoy seeing what the girl is like in real life, but it also totally KILLS the fantasy that these are nonconsensual situations and takes a lot of the edge away. The first company I saw that did that a lot was Insex. Now, they did some very inventive work, but they are far from being my favorite because of the consensual nature of their product. It's more like Bondage Fear Factor than the Surprise Attack and Capture that a company like ZFX makes. I like the outtakes that Rick puts in his DVDs but he wisely keeps them out of the main production.

I think most of why we see it today is because companies are covering their collective asses in case anyone in the government thinks that their stuff might be illegal, so they make damn sure that the stills they release are prefaced by images of the performers smiling in the beginning and at the end of the shoot (here's a perfect example of what I'm talking about: Sex and Submission).

When I wrote my review years ago of Robobabe 2025 from Forbidden Video, one of the last paragraphs I wrote commented negatively on the use of having the performers go before the camera after the shoot. Here's what I wrote:

After the end of the movie, both actors make an appearance in front of the camera where they let everyone watching know that indeed, Gauge didn't have any actual sex while she was tied up. Translation: "Yes, it was simulated; please don't arrest us." Give me a fucking break.

At the time, I was critical of Forbidden Video for being lily-livered and not going all out and making great nonconsensual movies like they did in their earlier works. And I could see exactly why they were scared, because of the conservative political climate that was running rampant in the Bush administration. And eventually, they did succumb to their fears. Forbidden Video is still in business, but they quit making their own original movies, and that was the reason why. It's a damn shame, too, because some of their stuff was really good. It's just a sign of the times.

A Canadian: I think you're onto something concerning YouTied. I hope MasterDetective isn't in trouble.

Thank you for your consideration

I told you that new 90210 chick was hot.

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The Dead YouTied Sketch: It's now Day 7 of the YouTied disappearance and investigators have called off the search. People who understand the Internet insist this isn't a server problem and the site is truly gone. It is widely believed one of the producers who was being ripped off had the site shut down.

We haven't heard anything from MasterDetective, and I have a new theory about the reasons why. I am wondering if someone has launched legal action against him, and as part of that legal action, he is forbidden from talking about the site or its disappearance until the case is resolved. It seems crazy, but the mystery around the site's disappearance is truly bizarre. I have to believe MasterDetective spent some significant time working on that site before it launched. In the early days of YouTied, I know MD dedicated time to checking the site and encoding files. He couldn't just have forgotten about it....

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BP wrote:

What's your opinion? Are we getting too PC? Do you really want to see the darn guy naked sitting talking to the girls while they are in robes?

I haven't seen the films where it is established up front that this is just fantasy, everyone's having fun, we all love each other dearly, etc. That would ruin the effect for me.

I watch my movies on DVD, and I don't mind when they do the all in good fun behind-the-scenes stuff after the fact, as a bonus feature. Attackers does that sometimes and so does I Energy. Rick has added bloopers and outtakes on some of his discs, as well. It means little to me, but I figure if it makes people feel better about what they just watched, there's no harm done. Sometimes, it is interesting to see what an actress is like out of character.

However, I would have no interest in seeing any of this stuff prior to the torture and rape scenes. I need to be able to enjoy the illusion when I watch the movie.

I started thinking which is in itself trouble.

We had this discussion on my group where on one of the local bondage comic providers had one of those fancy little snippets where the tortured girls are saying how they get all turned on by performing in these bondage comics. They then do the comic and then go back to the old gee that was a swell comic and I hope they hire me again for some more.

I'm thinking that this is a comic what the heck is going on but then I saw it on another couple of the comics. Well if you have been looking at some of the other bondage movie and picture shoots they make a big deal of the girl walking into the shoot and talking and bonding then they go to the shoot and then later they end up in white terry cloth robes drinking bottled water and just showing everyone how they just got off something awful on being in bondage like they darn near wanted to pay the guy that was tying them up.

What's your opinion? Are we getting too PC? Do you really want to see the darn guy naked sitting talking to the girls while they are in robes?

That little AnnaLynne McCord chick on 90210 is fucking hot. I'd like to get her alone for a few minutes of personal training.

I never heard of her so I did a quick check on the IMDB. Good God, where do they find these women? I don't get to watch TV much, but it just boggles my mind all the really incredible women they have on TV. I mean, I never see women like this in my real life. Maybe the writers will come up with a particularly nasty thing to do to her character on that show. We can only hope.

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Sardu: Thanks for the clip. Nice foreplay, especially when they tied her to the blood-stained wall, although it was a bit of a tease that it cut off when it could have gotten really good.

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Vince: Now THAT one was a lot of fun! I had never heard of that movie before but that was an excellent rape scene. It was also fun to read the comments of the readers who responded to the clip. My favorite:

"What kind of disturbing a$$ gets off on this type of thing?! That's wrong on SO many levels!"

Too funny. To me, there's few things more enjoyable in life than a good rape scene. Some guys just don't get it.

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I also got to see When a Killer Calls the other day. It's been out a few years, but it took me this long to finally check it out. Our friend Kevin did a good job describing the GIMP scenes in his review and I would recommend it for fans of mainstream scenes. All three victims are attractive and 2 of them meet a nasty end, and the third, a cute blonde, is tied up AOH and gagged for a good 20 minutes in the film's final third. Also we get to see a bit of tit when he opens up her top while she's tied up. Some decent entertainment, definitely worth a rental.

In addition to mainstream stuff, they also show some extreme material as well like this great rape scene from the movie "Living and Dying". Here's an attachment and see for yourselves.

It's a great way to get over the loss of YouTied

Thanks.

I urge anyone who doesn't have those Lisa Kinkaid epics to give VM a try.

I second that.

Added Ballista#2 and #3 to The Best of Lisa Kinkaid (ZFX).

Good choices. Ballista 2 is one of the best ZFX of all time.

Apparently Voodoo#2 not available yet on dvd.

Yes, it is. A Canadian reviewed the DVD last year. In fact, um...you carry it. Your website guy put it under the name "Ritual", instead of its actual name, Voodoo Dolls 2: Ritual. Now, aren't you embarrassed? :)

The new price for the ZFX vids at Video Mayhem make him competitive with sites like Adult Video Universe, so I urge anyone who doesn't have those Lisa Kinkaid epics to give VM a try.

If it gets deleted, I've saved it and can load it to a web-storage site."

Ah - you mean the blood dripping from the bound wrists at the end? Yes. Oh. yes.

Actually, I have the music video collection that includes this video, but it was nice to have the link right there and all handy-like. Thanks, jh.

The wrist bondage looked like it was serious, too, which was good. Actually, when I first saw the video, the design of her dress made it look like there was a tight cord across her upper chest, too, strengthening the bondage. Slight disappointment when that wasn't the case, but that disappointment went away when she submerged into the river. Sure, she lost the blindfold, but watching the air bubble out of her lungs and thinking, "What if her feet get caught in a snare, or a tangle of branches and she's *just* out of reach of the surface? What if we see her shaking her tits and air bubbling out and... and... and..."

(prolonged bout of Homer Simpson drooling ensues)

Oh, yeah. I got enough imagination to take a vanilla mainstream scene to where *I* want it to go.

Thos. Merchant

It depends who the actress is, but yes I usually get a 'Gimp' buzz, if it's Jennifer Carpenter (From the TV series Dexter) or Jennifer Love-Hewitt...you betcha! I guess it depends on the scene, I seem to want more and more extreme stuff as I age.

Cheers

Check out the URL.

Nice song, and the video is way cool. I love the ending!

If it gets deleted, I've saved it and can load it to a web-storage site.

Like I mentioned before, sometimes mainstream "just bondage" scenes do it for me, but usually, I have to have more than just the girl tied and gagged. It goes back to my old adage that I've repeated over the years...What's the point of tying her up if you're not going to do anything to her? I mean, if you had a pretty girl at your disposal, would you tie her up and just leave her alone? That's probably what 9 out of 10 TV and movie scenes do to their female victims. And to me, that's really sort of perverse.

If I had her tied up, you can damn well guarantee I would be doing stuff to her. I'd probably be ripping off her clothes and helping myself to her body. And she would be scared because I wouldn't be leaving her alone. If I want to molest her, if I want to torture her, I wouldn't hold back. I'm the man and she's the victim and as long as she's tied up, I'm the one in charge and she can't do a damn thing about it. Too many scenes don't get the basic premise right and that's why so many of them are dull.

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The Best of Lisa Kinkaid Sale at Video Mayhem: My goodness, you might as well call it The Best of ZFX Sale while you're at it. Larry did a great job of picking 12 bonafide classics, all of which feature ZFX's most prolific star. The one obvious title he left out was maybe the greatest rape movie in ZFX's arsenal, The Apartment, but there's some really excellent movies in this collection, and I would recommend all of them. And wait, no Ballista 2? Still, I guess he couldn't pick everything or else he'd probably have 87 movies up there.

Frankly, there's no bad choices in this collection and she gets raped in at least half of them and treated very badly in all of them. Looks like I'm gonna have to pull out the old credit card again. At only 29 bucks a pop, it's hard to pass up these prices. There's not even an extra charge for shipping.

BTW, of the newest ZFX titles just released, clearly my favorite is Alien Probe, featuring an outstanding performance by one the most underrated actress in ZFX history, Holly Weston. While she wasn't classically beautiful, I still found her attractive and she gave really great performances in all of her movies for ZFX. She's probably best remembered for the final 3 Guinea Pigs titles but this is definitely her best film. Strongly recommended.

MAV: For an amateur site, clips4sale looks pretty good. The woman wasn't too bad, and I don't see any tattoos.

Tox Uthat: Yes, your clips were certainly well appreciated. Glad I got the opportunity to see them.

A Canadian: I'd definitely add "Forced Entry" to the list of recommended Lisa movies.

YouTied: I hope the site is revived but with stricter rules on what can be uploaded. I think MasterDetective gave some good ideas on content, but didn't follow through with them, for whatever reason. I also hope that if the site returns, people use stagenames instead of just "anonymous." In the comments sections, it often seemed that one person was carrying on a conversation with himself.

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The sale of ZFX movies at Video Mayhem now includes The Best of Lisa Kinkaid Sale. Of the titles listed here, my favorites are South of the Border 4: Atrocities and South of the Border 5: In the Flesh. I would also recommend Voodoo Dolls for the strange yet effective teddy bear scene.

Thanks for the Erotic Perversion pics, Ralphus - keep 'em coming.

Ralphus I was really enjoying the previous picture series. I usually don't like manipulated pics, but those were top notch.

Nice to see the erotic perversions stills, those will forever be the measure by which all other "bondage roughies" aspire to. Back in the eighties, when I the only place to find that was peep shows, those were the ones that really put me over the top. Absolutely the best female sexual torture and bondage scenes ever commited to film IMHO.

For example, there was Geena Davis tied to the waterwheel in "The Long Kiss Goodbye" (IIRC). Now, of course I (and anyone on this board) would have known immediately NOT to have bound her with such big ropes. If they'd used good, stout, thin cord very tightly wrapped, she'd still be getting dunked on that wheel today! Nonetheless, despite the fact she wasn't gagged and was poorly bound, she was in a slip and she did have to go through a drowning torment, which I quite like.

Then, there's my favorite musician - Tori Amos - and her music video for her song "Spark" off her late '90's album "From The Choirgirl Hotel". Even the most generous interpretation of the song's lyrics could not come up with the video plot of her trying to escape a kidnapping with her hands bound behind her (FOR THE ENTIRE VIDEO!!!) and blindfolded (for half of the video - UNTIL SHE SUBMERGED HERSELF IN A RIVER!!!!) (insert Homer Simpson drooling noise here). If I want something nastier, I can take that memory and do some mental editing in my mind's eye. I don't mind the effort.

So, yeah, I can dig mainstream bondage.

Thos. Merchant

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Sgt. Major: I don't think you've missed much, other than the mysterious disappearance of YouTied. As of this writing, we don't know what has happened, but it ain't looking good. Meanwhile, I would love to know if you picked up any good GIMP-related tidbits in Japan.

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This is completely off topic, but I feel terrible for that little girl in China who was told she wasn't pretty enough to be allowed on camera singing the unofficial anthem at the Olympics.

POLL QUESTION: I'm a bit mixed on what I still enjoy from the old days. My rather extensive collection of HOM (both silent loops and the newer stuff) does seem sort of lame now. Most of it is trite. Many clips from old mainstream, however, I still get off on. Considering that I often had to use my own imagination to fill in shortcomings, I can still have it "my way". The buildup and intensity of the scene is always the best element and mainstream usually delivers that part. Let's face it, some of that stuff is simply classic material. Loose bonds and daring rescues can be very frustrating, but a good setting or horrific scream can do a lot to make up for it.

I'll close for now and try to be active in the conversation again

Ironman out.

Poll- I guess it would have to depend on the model and the mood of the scene. There has to be some element of tension in the bondage and some degree of her fighting the bondage. Just a bound chick is nothing for me without some kind of struggle. I think in the same token a girl who is being raped or smacked around and you can see she could walk out of her restraints is also slated to the bland file. The Great American Snuff Film has some really edgy scenes with no nudity.

I have been in Japan for some time so I am out of the loop so to speak

I'm particularly interested in the "Abdominal Abuse", "Human Punching Bag", and "The Brutal Game" clips which involve AOH torture. You can see some 10 second previews at the clips4sale site and some other longer previews at their core site ruinouslove.com

Scott: Darkroom is making me feel guilty. I didn't ignore your post -- I simply don't know the answer.

Although I am fairly certain it wasn't me or anyone here but rather one of the generic bondage posters who posted their damn 40 minute clips, there's still no way to know for certain because Master Detective never once bothered to delete anything or give clear guidelines on the issue.

Scott, that post of yours pretty much got overrun or ignored. Have you had any luck identifying? Go any feedback?

That being said ...

milo:

I saw a breastwhipping compilation over at the pain4fem spanking site (it took them this long to realize that they were beating the wrong end).

Amen to that. Sites like S&S, FuckingDungeon, FuckedandBound are quite good for what they are, hardcore sex with consensual bondage; They've even got a number of complete hotties to shoot with them.

But where does one go for great breast-whipping scenes? PainGate and WhippedWomen occasionally deliver, but not often enough for me to resubscribe.

Again, we won't know for sure until we hear from MasterDetective. It's his site, and he should know what's going on. I expect he'll stop by here and give us a report after he's back from his seemingly endless vacation in Brazil.

Elkcreek: Thanks very much for taking the time to review those Zen Pictures movies for the forum. Best electro torture scene you've ever seen? Wow, that's high praise. I've seen some very good ones myself. I think if I'm going to pay $70 for a DVD, though, it had better have some bare tits in it.

Interestingly, the place where you bought Space Heroine Mary translates the title as Space Investigator Marie. The direct link to buy it is at the bottom of your review. The direct links for your reviews are:

http://zfxetc.tripod.com/reviews/japanreviews/jap_heroinesteelangel.htm and

http://zfxetc.tripod.com/reviews/japanreviews/jap_spaceheroinemary.htm

Poll question: No, mainstream bound & gagged scenes do nothing for me, and yes, it's because my viewing tastes have changed over the years. My theory is that this material is like a prohibited drug. The more we use it, the stronger the dose we need to get a good hit. So, while a bound female may have excited me years ago, nowadays, unless a busty babe is being tit and/or cunt-whipped, it rarely holds my interest.

Anyone who has ever read any of my previous posts would readily surmise that I am on the 'pro-torture' side of the fence. On that point, I need to kvetch about what I see as the 'decline' of Japanese SM flicks. They used to have great whipping, electro, etc. scenes, plus they apparently shared my boob fetish. Nowadays, most of the Jap flicks seem to focus entirely on forced sex, forced orgasms (w/c may be a myth), schoolgirls (yuck), wax and clothespins. (Wax and clothespins do not a torture scene make, unless they are whipped off the victim). I'm sure there is a market for that stuff, but I do miss the old days.

On the apparent demise of youtied: I was hoping that it would at least stick around until someone posted the rape scene from "Naked Vengeance", a scene I remember from 20 years or so ago. For whatever reason, my vlc player doesn't catch the sound when I save a clip. The most I got out of the site before it went down was some hentai torture clips with funny names (A-Ga, E'L).

S&S and similar sites: Yes, Ralphus the 'consensual' element is indeed a big minus, but many of the victims are just my type, and they suffer an occassional quality torture (albeit brief), so for me, it's worth the effort to use my imagination to block out the consensual stuff. If I knew how to work a film editor, I may make a a compilation of the best scenes from the 10 or so I've seen (but it would probably still be a relatively short clip). Speaking of nice compilations, I saw a breastwhipping compilation over at the pain4fem spanking site (it took them this long to realize that they were beating the wrong end). I wish I could get hold of that.

Guess you're all bored enough. Back to lurking, then. Peace.

Space Heroine Mary: The actresses name is Miko Hosono, and in case you're wondering, like all of Zen's other actresses she is hot, damn near perfect. This one interested me so much I had to buy it. It is not available from a North American source. More about that later. The movie starts out with the girl in a short skirt, white blouse and matching vest. Did I mention she has great legs? She walks into a convenience store. It is obvious the clerk develops a crush on her. She spends (far too much) time wandering around the store looking at merchandise before wandering up to the counter. At that point two gang bangers enter the store to rob the place. She defeats them easily in a fairly convincing fight. When they are out, they get up and take some drugs, then they enter the store again to attack her as drug crazed lunatics. This time the fight is much more intense and Mary gets knocked around a little bit but still defeats her foes.

In the next scene she is sitting on a park bench when a man in a military uniform and six ninjas appear. As she stands up to face them she suddenly feels weakened (how or why I have no idea). She is tossed around like a rag doll by the ninjas who take turns kicking her, stomach punching her, and generally beating her. She is finally knocked unconscious. This is a great scene, the kind of scene that is missing from so many of the Attackers style flicks. She does a great job of acting and sells it. I'll give it an A-; if she was more scantily clad it would be an A easy.

The next scene she awakes tied AOH in a bra and panties (looks more like a great bikini). Did I mention she has great tits and a nice flat stomach to go along worth the face of an angel? There is water dripping on her; she is cold (shivering) and soaked. The villains appear with electrical torture device. What follows is the best electro torture scene I've ever seen. She is bit gagged with a rag, and twists and contorts until she is finally barely conscious. The scene concludes with her laying on the floor of a cell. Overall, I'll give it an A; if she was topless it would have been an A +

In the next scene one of the ninjas sneaks into her cell. It turns out to be the store clerk who has come to save her. Next we see her sitting on the floor sharing a few moments with the clerk. She is now clothed in the original short skirt with a vest but no blouse. Then she attempts to escape and the clerk is shot. She attempts to get to a computer panel (evidently her objective). When she touches it, it burns her vest off, a plus. Then the man in the military uniform commands this giant of a man in a black spacesuit to attack her. What happens is a second devastating beat-down with some big time wrestling moves thrown in for good measure. These scenes are long, and that makes them better. She is punched, kicked, choked, thrown airborne and left barely able to stand. I won't spoil it this time.

Overall I give this effort an A. It would be an A plus if it included a rape or believable whipping scene and or some nudity. The girl is almost flawlessly hot, and she does a good job acting (almost Academy Award level) compared to many other J flicks. The costumes (normal clothing) were not nearly as distracting as some other efforts in this genre. Giga in particular has some terrible costumes.

Now the purchasing part. This DVD is not available in North America, I had found this source and decided to shoot the wad. It's about $65, almost $70 with shipping. But then again I've had 5-8 DVD orders of J films here that didn't produce as many total minutes of delicious gimp worthy action as this one did. And I've seen pricier stuff with far uglier chicks. Anyway I decided to try these guys.

https://www.catfight.co.jp/english/genrelist.html

And I would recommend them wholeheartedly. I ordered on Thursday night and received my order on Monday from Japan!!! They had excellent email communication. One note, be sure and look at the movie boxes to ascertain whether or not there region 0 DVD's or region 1's. Region 2 or 3 DVD's will not play on most American DVD players. This played flawlessly and were excellent quality original prints. Obviously it's more money and I would certainly be very picky about the stuff I ordered. But both Zen and Giga have huge catalogs with some great actresses that just aren't available thru the normal channels. At least this provides an alternative. They also have some intriguing stuff in other categories.

Zen Pictures stuff is similar to the Ring Diva's Heroine torture series (Sarayu Blood Chronicles, Son of Seth). And the emphasis is definitely on physical punishment not sex. Also as a comparison to the GIGA flicks (another excellent company in this category), there are no rapes or nudity in a Zen Pictures flick. The first two are available from Ring Diva's, and the last one requires mail order from Japan. More about that later in Part 2.

Heroine Steel Angel: This flick showed a lot of promise the actress (Yu Seiki) is ridiculously hot. The first few scenes are weird to say the least. The soundtrack is corny to the point of irritating and while she looks great in the first fight scene in which she easily defeats her buffoonish villains, it's almost not enjoyable with the irritating sound track. After a couple of scenes with a scientist she is weakened by a cryptonite type glowing liquid. In one scene she is tied AOH and touched with a rod filled with the material. Unfortunately she doesn't really sell it. Next she is laid on a table, not tied, what a letdown, and the liquid is rubbed into her body. The scene is kind of a joke but she does look really hot, definitely vanilla. Finally she escapes and unfortunately runs into the original cartoon villains. Then she goes into a fight scene in which she is humiliated including stomach punches, kicks, and stomps. This scene is the only worthwhile scene in the movie. She sells it fairly well and her tight little body along with her tight little ass are on full display. The movie ends with her somehow recovering her powers and winning the day. Sorry for the spoilers but who cares about plots anyway?

Plusses: The chick is incredibly hot, she plays the victim pretty good. Minuses: Soundtrack, acting, lack of believable peril. C- only because did I mention she's hot?

Heroine Wonder Detective: This one stars Ai Nanase. She's a bit more endowed then most Japanese stars and again very hot. She starts out in a schoolgirl uniform. After a bar scene, she is menaced and attacked by four boys in a park. At first she wins easily and then they begin to overtake her, holding her for some belly punches. She slides away and morphs into a deliciously scanty bikini super-heroine costume. She then easily defeats the four boys while a villain is watching. The next scene (apparently a dream) she is tied AOH in her school girl costume and whipped, and then electrical tortured. The whipping scene is poor and not sold well, obviously fake. The electrical scene, while not Giga level, is sold well and believable. She is left lying limply, overall a B- scene.

In the next scene she is on a roof dressed deliciously in a tight top. She gets in a fight with some villain and just when she is about to be subdued she morphs into the original sweet costume. Then she begins to dispose of the villain who bears a resemblance to Michael Jackson, ugh. Then he throws the deadly liquid on her (who knows?) She is subdued and tied AOH. The next scene she receives some belly punishment but it is far too short. This is followed by liquid torture to her. This scene is a little better then the Steel Angel scene; the costume and her perfect endowments don't hurt. Overall it's not a bad flick and worth the $20 Ring Divas is asking for it. Grade B-. Did I mention the chick is hot?

I checked this morning and the YouTied site is still down. It's looking less likely that this is just a server problem.

Well, not necessarily. As a website owner (and I'm not talking about here), I've had my site go down on me before and I didn't know about it until I happened to do just a random check and discovered it missing. Don't forget that MasterDetective is on vacation and likely not monitoring the site, as it was obvious before since the illegal files were not getting removed. It's possible he's still in Brazil and doesn't even know it's down. He hasn't checked in here to post about it, either, which I would also expect one way or another. He's usually been good at giving us updates. So at this point we can only speculate as to what's going on.

Thanks,

John

I don't want to beat a dead horse, but I have to recant what I told Brutus earlier about the the movie P2: There is a scene where Rachel Nichols has her wrists bound behind her back. But in answer to Ralphus' poll question: Yes, there are some mainstream scenes that turn me on, even though over the years I have developed a taste for more extreme things like torture, whipping, etc. P2 is a good example of a mainstream movie that does very little, but gets it right.

IMO, there are three elements that make a mainstream scene work: 1) Display - even if the girl is not naked, she should be clad in a sexy or revealing way. This emphasizes the shame, humiliation, or vulnerability inherent in her situation; 2) Restraint - even though I prefer AOH or spreadeagle positions, tied to a chair or cuffed to a radiator can work too; 3) Peril - even if the girl is not about to be tortured, whipped or chainsawed, the look in her eyes when she realizes her predicament can excite.

In P2, the lonely security guard removes her restraints because he wants to have a "date" with her. But for insurance, he has a vicious dog just inches away from her, and she's behind a locked door with no one else around to hear her scream. She's wearing a revealing gown that he dressed her in after chloroforming her. Rachel really sells the sense of danger, humiliation and hopelessness inherent in her situation. If done well in a mainstream movie, that's the kind of stuff that can turn me on.

I noticed that the rack database has an entry for "Shallow Ground". However, the caps shown for the entry are from the movie "She."

Wow, can't believe I missed that. That was one I probably added during one of my late night sessions in trying to get the site ready for the deadline. Not a good idea to proofread when you can barely keep your eyes open. The proper page is now up on the database, as well as my Homepage URL. Thanks to Hank Hobbs for the excellent vidcaps.

Alan

YikYakker: I heard the only GIMP stuff in P2 was a woman in handcuffs (in front). Is there anything more to this movie?

Brutus: Sadly, you heard correctly. Well, it's a mainstream film, after all. As I mentioned, most would find it quite tame. I did, however, enjoy the pervasive sense of menace and the non-nude - but delectably presented - Rachel Nichols.

On another subject: I recently viewed a film called Shallow Ground which some of you may