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The second Grand Prix of the 2023 Season takes place in Saudi Arabia! :D :D

Let's get started! :D


The official start time of the 2023 Saudi Arabian Grand Prix will be Sunday, March 19th, at 8 PM local time, which is, 5 PM in London and 4 AM on Monday, March 20th in Sydney. No guesses will be accepted after that time.


So pick up a(nother) glass of...tea, and let's play for another round! :D :D

First here are the rules:

You need to be a Stampboards member - joining up is free -

Register here!

To qualify for winning a prize here, all you need to do after you join up is to make sure you contribute at least 5 (on topic) posts to philatelic threads, not including requests to receive freebies, before the start of the GP.

I will check your posts in the event you have a winning guess in order to verify this qualification.

If you did not quality for any reason, the prize will go to the next eligible post.

To participate, you must name five different drivers, in the order you believe they will be officially classified, from the winner, to the fifth finisher.

One guess per Stampboarder, and it cannot be changed once it has been made. Editing in the same post will also no longer be permitted.

You will get one point per driver who finishes in the same position as your guess, so a maximum of 5 points at each race.

- Prize 1: the winner is the person who gets the most points at that race. If there is a tie, the earlier guess wins.

- Prize 2: the winner is the person who gets the most points at the end of a four race sprint. In case of a tie, the earlier guess on the fourth race of the sprint wins.

The winner of Prize 2 then has a choice: he or she can go for the default Prize 2, which will always be a four margin penny black, or he or she can choose to accumulate more points to ‘purchase’ an alternative Prize 2. Once you have chosen to accumulate, there is no going back until you have 'bought' an alternative Prize 2. The accumulation can only go until the end of Season 2024.

The list of Prize 2's along with how many points you need to purchase them, is shown below.

Once you have won a 4 race sprint, if you do not elect to take the Penny Black on offer, you will continue to accumulate points for Prize 2 as long as you wish (but not past the end of Season 2024) in order to ‘purchase’ an alternative Prize 2.

You can do so at any time once you have accumulated enough points to ‘purchase’ the Prize 2 of your choosing.

Once you have chosen a Prize 2, whether the Penny Black or an alternative Prize, your Prize 2 points count will be reset to 0.

If you do not choose the penny black, it will be on offer for the next four race sprint.

This is designed so that anyone who wins a four race sprint will at some point be able to claim a Prize 2, whether a four margin penny black or an alternative Prize.

Everyone else will have their Prize 2 points reset to 0 to restart the four race sprint, except the Prize 2 points 'accumulators'.

There can be several Prize 2 points 'accumulators' at the same time, as long as they have not 'purchased' their Prize 2.

- Prize 3: the points are counted and accumulated in the same way: 1 point per correctly placed pilot at each race, but everyone gets to keep their Prize 3 points until the season's last race, where the highest point accumulator wins.

Prize 3 will be attributed on the occasion of the last Grand Prix of the 2023 season.

If there is a tie, the contest continues only among the Stampboarders with the highest score, until the tie is broken.

Anti-shadowing rule for Prize 3:

- This rule applies to the top three Prize 3 points accumulators at any race: the #1 accumulator will have to post their guess at least three hours before the official start of the race, the #2 accumulator two hours before the official start, and the #3 accumulator one hour. Everyone else has to put in their guess before the official start time of the Grand Prix.

- There will be zero tolerance for any time 'overshoot', even if it is one second, and any editing for all contestants, and no excuses accepted: my computer slowed down, Stampboards loaded too slowly, my cat stepped on my keyboard…so please note this carefully as I want to avoid any unpleasantness or ambiguities.


And here are the Prizes:



- Prize 1, comes from Belgium. It consists of three sets engraved by Leon Janssens and issued in the 1950's:

The first set (MH) was issued in 1950 to benefit the fight against tuberculosis:


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The second set (MNH) was issued in 1951 for the benefit of UNESCO:


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And the third set (MNH), benefiting the European Child Welfare Fund, was issued in 1953:


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- And here is the list of Prize 2's

First, the penny black plate 4, lettered QC, that will be attributed in Azerbaijan, on the 30th of April



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The first Alternative Prize 2, costing 10 Prize 2 points, is the iconic 'Pont du Gard', here in MH condition, issued by France in 1930, and engraved by Henri Cheffer:

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The second alternative Prize 3, costing 14 Prize 2 points, is the 'large beard' set of Belgium, issued in 1905, offered here in MH condition:



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The third alternative Prize 2, costing 16 Prize 2 points, is the Cardinal Mercier set of Belgium, issued in 1932, also MH:

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The fourth Alternative Prize 2, also costing 18 Prize 2 points, is the Leopold II 'fine beard' set (MH) issued in 1893. The set includes the dominical tabs which were used to placate the deeply catholic population of Belgium by giving people the option not to have mail delivered on Sunday. The sender just needed to use the stamp with tab to allow this, or tear off the tab to signify that they were agreeable for the mail to be delivered on Sunday.



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The fifth Alternative Prize 2, costing 18 Prize 2 points, is the 'Banknote' Airmail stamp issued by France in 1936, and engraved by Gustave Gandon:



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The sixth Alternative Prize 2, costing 18 Prize 2 points, is the classic Posthorn set (MH) from Germany, issued in 1951:



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The seventh Alternative Prize 2, costing 18 Prize 2 points, is pretty exceptional: it consists of all the Buzin bird stamps, ie all formats, face values and of course all birds, issued over the past 30 years. There are 113 stamps and one Souvenir Sheet, all MNH of course:

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And Prize 3 for the 2022 Season is the iconic 1884 £1 Brown with the Three Crowns watermark:



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And now it's all up to you! :D

Cheers,

Joel.
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Post by MaJu »

Thank you, Joel, Here my guess:

Verstappen
Perez
Hamilton
Alonso
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Post by AndrewWalker »

Thanks Joel! I'll have a stab in the dark with

Verstappen
Sainz
Leclerc
Perez
Russell

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Thanks a lot Joel. Time for another wild guess:

1) Verstappen
2) Leclerc
3) Perez
4) Sainz
5) Hamilton

I daresay this is more fun than the race itself :lol:

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Post by vijaysingh »

Thanks Joel.

This time I will go for

Verstappen
Leclerc
Hamilton
Sainz jr
Russell
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Hi Joel,

I'll try the following please even though I know nothing about Grand Prix.

Verstappen
Perez
Hamilton
Alonso
Sainz

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Thank you Papabear, Vijay, Ani, Andrew and MaJu! :D :D


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Verstappen
Leclerc
Hamilton
Alonso
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Post by JKA »

Thanks Joel

Verstappen
Perez
Alonso
Hamilton
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Thank you, Joel. I will try too:
1) Sainz
2) Verstappen
3) Perez
4) Alonso
5) Hamilton
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Hi Joel

Thanks for the competition I'll go for:

1. Verstappen
2. Perez
3. Leclerc
4. Hamilton
5. Sainz
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Perez
Verstappen
Alonso
Sainz
Leclerc

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Hello Joel,
Verstappen
Perez
Hamilton
Alonso
Russell
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Hi Joel

Thanks for the competition I'll go for:

1. Verstappen
2. Perez
3. Alonso
4. Sainz
5. Ocon

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Post by Browny »

My guesses for this race are:
Verstappen
Perez
Alonso
Russell
Hamilton

Thanks as always to Joel and Marco for a wonderful array of goodies and organising the competition!
Good luck all.
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Joel,
Many thanks.

My guess:
1º - Verstappen
2º - Perez
3º - Leclerc
4º - Alonso
5º - Hamilton
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Please consider my guess as

Verstappen
Perez
Sainz
Hamilton
Leclerc

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Post by jcsanjuan »

Verstappen
Alonso
Hamilton
Sainz
Perez

Thanks Joel
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Thanks, Joel for another great competition - my guess for this HOT temperature race is -

1. Perez
2. Alonso
3. Russell
4. Verstappen
5. Sainz


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Thank you for the competition Joel! :D

Perez
Alonso
Russell
Sainz
Hamilton
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Post by aerogi »

Thanks for the game Joel!

My prediction:

1. Perez
2. Alonso
3. Verstappen
4. Leclerc
5. Sainz
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Post by lima34 »

I'll try:

Perez
Verstappen
Alonso
Sainz
Hamilton

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Post by kobo »

Thanks as ever Joel.

1. Perez
2. Verstappen
3. Alonso
4. Sainz
5. Stroll
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Post by Gismo »

Thank you as usual Joel.

My guess:

Perez
Alonso
Verstappen
Leclerc
Stroll.

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Post by Brummie »

Thanks Joel.

Here we go with:-
Perez
Alonso
Russell
Sainz
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Verstappen
Perez
Alonso
Russell
Hamilton

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Post by Veles »

Thanks Joel!
1. Perez
2. Alonso
3. Sainz
4. Russell
5. Verstappen
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Thank you Joel for the game and fun!

I try:
1. Perez
2. Alonso
3. Verstappen
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5. Sainz
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Post by elephantiger »

Thanks Joel,

my guesses this round:
1. Perez
2. Sainz
3. Hamilton
4. Leclerc
5. Verstappen

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Post by ikanek »

Thanks Joel for the competition. My guess:

1. LeClerc
2. Perez
3. Verstappen
4. Russell
5. Hamilton
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Thank you Joel. Here is my guess:

1. Perez
2. Leclerc
3. Sainz
4. Russell
5. Hamilton
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Post by Matmex »

Thank you Joel for running the contest and the amazing prizes. Very generous!!

My guess:
1) Pérez
2) Alonso
3) Verstappen
4) Sainz
5) Stroll

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Hi -

Let's try:

1) Verstappen
2) Leclerc
3) Perez
4) Alonso
5) Hamilton

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For those members yet to tip here is the official starting grid to assist your choice - some large surprises here - 8-)

1 -11 -Perez -Red Bull Racing Honda RBPT 1:28.265
2 -14 -Alonso -Aston Martin Aramco Mercedes 1:28.730
3 -63 -Russell -Mercedes 1:28.857
4 -55 -Sainz -Ferrari 1:28.931
5 -18 -Stroll -Aston Martin Aramco Mercedes 1:28.945
6 -31 -Ocon -Alpine Renault 1:29.078
7 -44 -Hamilton -Mercedes 1:29.223
8 -81 -Piastri -McLaren Mercedes 1:29.243
9 -10 -Gasly -Alpine Renault 1:29.357
10 -27 -Hulkenberg -Haas Ferrari 1:29.451
11 -24 -Zhou -Alfa Romeo Ferrari 1:29.461
12 -16 -Leclerc -Ferrari 1:28.420
13 -20 -Magnussen -Haas Ferrari 1:29.634
14 -77 -Bottas -Alfa Romeo Ferrari 1:29.668
15 -1 -Verstappen -Red Bull Racing Honda RBPT 1:49.953
16 -22 -Tsunoda -AlphaTauri Honda RBPT 1:29.939
17 -23 -Albon -Williams Mercedes 1:29.994
18 -21 -De Vries -AlphaTauri Honda RBPT 1:30.244
19 -4 -Norris -McLaren Mercedes 1:30.447
20 -2 -Sargeant -Williams Mercedes 2:08.510

Note - Leclerc penalised 10 grid places for use of an additional power unit element. Sargeant failed to set a qualifying time within 107% of the fastest Q1 time - races at stewards' discretion.
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Post by Ubobo.R.O. »

Thankyou Gentlemens for organising this giveaway. Maggie's selections are:

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STROLL
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Alonso
Russell
Perez
Hamilton
Sainz

Thank you Joel and Marco :)

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Thanks Joel. My guesses this race are

Perez
Russel
Sainz
Hamilton
Verstappen

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Still about twelve hours to lodge guesses folks. :lol:

Looks like an unusual Top 5 might occur this race. 8-)
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Post by Girish Vaidya »

Hi JoelK,
Thanks for the contest and nice prizes. I will go with

1 Perez
2 Alonso
3 Russell
4 Sainz
5 Stroll

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Thank you Joel

1 Perez
2 Verstappen
3 Russell
4 Alonso
5 Sainz

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Post by CMJ »

Thank you, Joel for the continuing competition and fantastic prizes.

A grid penalty already for Leclerc for using too many engine parts by the second race of the year doesn't bode well for his or Ferrari's season ! Anyway, my guess is:

1. Perez
2. Alonso
3. Sainz
4. Verstappen
5. Russell
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Thanks a lot, Joel!

I'll go with:
1. Perez
2. Verstappen
3. Alonso
4. Sainz
5. Russell
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Thank you Joel!

1 Alonso
2 Perez
3 Verstappen
4 Hamilton
5 Leclerc
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A topsy-turvy grid but the top cars are so much better than the midfield ones these days it is easier to move up than in years gone by.

1 Pérez
2 Russell
3 Versappen
4 Alonso
5 Stroll

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Thank you Richard, Peter and Henrik! :D :D


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Hi Joel,

My guess for F1 Saudi Arabia G.P. 2023:

1) Perez
2) Alonso
3) Sainz
4) Russell
5) Verstappen



Many thanks again and good luck to every one of us!

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1. Fernando Alonso
2. Sergio Pérez
3. George Russell
4. Lewis Hamilton
5. Carlos Sainz

Thank you, Joel :)
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My guess :

1. Verstappen
2. Perez
3. Alonso
4. Russell
5. Sainz
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fchd wrote: 19 Mar 2023 22:39
A topsy-turvy grid but the top cars are so much better than the midfield ones these days it is easier to move up than in years gone by.

I do not envy Max needing to gain 15 positions. :)
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