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First post, by ATi_Loyalist

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The year is 2005, following the P4 Era, the Prescott debacle, and the failure of NetBurst to take off for intel, AMD was riding the 64-bit wave with the Athlon 64 lineup, specifically the Socket 939 processors which have always held a special place in my heart. The mighty AMD FX line, these things were just *dominating* the charts and benchmarks at the time, all over the covers of Max PC and the like. To me, they represented a milestone in compouting between the modern era and the legacy era.

For me personally, I was running a P4 478 2.66 Ghz Northwood until March 2006, when I bought an Asus A8V and an Athlon 64 3700+ San Diego, both of which I still have today. It was truly a new era of Windows XP performance, I was a college student at the time and it was about all I could afford to just keep up with the times. I still had a 9700 Pro as my primary video card, being AGP, so I chose the A8V with KT800 Pro chipset and AGP in order to avoid upgrading to PCIe at the time. A common story for many in this era! I only used this build until July 2008 when I upgraded to a P5Q, E8400 Wolfdale, and an ATi HD4850 when I had a little more chase for parts, again proving to be a solid build for about 5 years on!!! That build needs a revisit some day as well.

Anyway, back to the Athlon 64 days. As I mentioned, I still have the Asus A8V motherboard, which unfortunately was caught in the great capacitor plauge with nasty UCC KZG Caps all over it! In 2007-2008 I recall the board being a little unstable in gaming and now I know why! I always thought the K8T800 was just a buggy chipset.

I kept the board in storage for years never quite being able to let it go but not really having a plan for what to do with it. So it moved from box to box, bin to bin, house to house until finally earlier this year I decided to revisit Athlon 64. I have had a P4 3.4 Ghz Northwood rig running since 2017 which I had restored from parts I had for many years, but it just wasn't quite scratching my itch for SPEED. This A64 rig will hopefully deliver a nice 20-50% performance increase over the P4 Rig, I will also be using it in the short term for video digitization and archival, as my family has a couple hundred VHS-C and Hi8 tapes that need to be converted. I will be using a 9600 AIW for the video conversion and an X1950 Pro for gaming.

Specs:
Motherboard options:
Asus A8V Recapped with Rubycon electrolytic caps and Panasonic Polymer caps for VRMs
Asus A8V Deluxe also recapped

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Processors in my collection:
A64 3500+
A64 3700+ San Diego
A64 4000+ San Diego
A64 X2 4400+ San Diego
A64 X2 4400+ San Diego

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RAM:
OCZ PC3200 2-3-2-5, 2Gb (2x 1GB)

Video card options:
ATi 9600 AIW, bought New in Box recently on ebay
ATi/Powercolor X1950 Pro, found 2 of them as manufacturer refurbed several years ago, white box.

Sound Card:
Audigy 2 ZS (obviously)

Power Supply:
Corsair HX520W

Case:
Fractal Focus G, Gunmetal Grey
2x 140mm Green LED fans
1x 120mm Green LED Fan
Green CCFLs, maybe a little splash of orange from an LED strip as an homage to AMD's A64 era

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Side note: I had found a mint condition Lian Li PC-7B Plus but it seems USPS may have lost it, so I'll proceed with the Focus G build. A nice option for retro builds!

Adding an Asus DVD drive, an intel 250 gb SSD for XP, and a 320 GB 7200 RPM WD Blue SATA I drive for storage. Debating adding an IDE/SD card adapter for a 98SE option as well.

Looking forward to sharing the build with you!

P4/XP Rig: P4C800 | P4 3.4 | Radeon X850 Pro
A64/XP Rig : A8V | A64 X2 4400+ | X1950 Pro
Ancient Rig: Pentium 166 W | S3 Trio

Reply 1 of 9, by rcarkk

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Lovely hardware. Just slap the X1950 Pro in it with A64 4000+ San Diego and give it a minor OC to 2.6. It´s a very easy OC on the system and CPU and you dont need the extra core for up to 2006 games.

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Reply 2 of 9, by ATi_Loyalist

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rcarkk wrote on 2023-05-10, 15:58:

Lovely hardware. Just slap the X1950 Pro in it with A64 4000+ San Diego and give it a minor OC to 2.6. It´s a very easy OC on the system and CPU and you dont need the extra core for up to 2006 games.

Indeed great advice! I think after I do the video capture work I'll swap over to the 4000+.

P4/XP Rig: P4C800 | P4 3.4 | Radeon X850 Pro
A64/XP Rig : A8V | A64 X2 4400+ | X1950 Pro
Ancient Rig: Pentium 166 W | S3 Trio

Reply 3 of 9, by gerry

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i've got an athlon x2 4450e in a board i can't quite remember the spec of - but it would be an am2 with pcie

so really not the same as yours, its all a bit 2008 - but still, inspiring me to build something with it as i enjoyed reading through your post 😀

Reply 4 of 9, by ATi_Loyalist

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@gerry It is a lovely era! Still period correct but a much nicer performance level than P4/AXP. The power/performance ratio is nice as well with Cool n Quiet. I was dead set on sticking with AGP but I did notice the AM2/PCIe stuff is far more readily available and cheaper on eBay right now, a good time to stock up!!!!

P4/XP Rig: P4C800 | P4 3.4 | Radeon X850 Pro
A64/XP Rig : A8V | A64 X2 4400+ | X1950 Pro
Ancient Rig: Pentium 166 W | S3 Trio

Reply 5 of 9, by ATi_Loyalist

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Well guess what USPS found today! My PC-7B!
Miraculously it arrived unscathed. It went missing for a while but it just randomly showed up at the local post office this morning. Happy to have found such a clean example, it's complete and barely any dust inside.
Now to decide what case to use.... I think I'll stick with the Focus G for now and shelve the PC-7 for a later build...

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A64/XP Rig : A8V | A64 X2 4400+ | X1950 Pro
Ancient Rig: Pentium 166 W | S3 Trio

Reply 7 of 9, by ATi_Loyalist

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Private_Ops wrote on 2023-05-12, 20:13:

Love those era Lian Li cases. I've got one all aluminum and two of the "cheaper" Lan Cool K7s.

They were really on another level!

On another note, I scored a Lamptron fan controller with multicolor display in the big FrozenCPU clearance! Some other goodies too that I'll share later.

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P4/XP Rig: P4C800 | P4 3.4 | Radeon X850 Pro
A64/XP Rig : A8V | A64 X2 4400+ | X1950 Pro
Ancient Rig: Pentium 166 W | S3 Trio

Reply 8 of 9, by Towncivilian

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Nice build, I have a similar system built around an ASUS A8V-Deluxe, Athlon 3500+, and 9600XT also used for video capture which replaced the HP in my signature when it died.

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Reply 9 of 9, by bZbZbZ

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Looking good! I have a similar (slower, but similarly period correct and similar plagued KZG caps!) build here. I personally started off with an Athlon 64 3000+ but upgraded to a dual core when the Athlon 64 X2 CPUs came out.

What CPU cooler are you going to use? One of the things I think is ridiculous (in a good way) about s754 and s939 is that they can use any AM2/AM3/AM4 cooler that clips onto the stock plastic mounting bracket... including the RGB Wraith Prism that was included with certain Ryzen 7/9 processors...